Love & Personals – Looking For Solution For Something That's Not A Problem. Humorous and serious breakdown of the fixation the world has on the cause and effect of sexuality. 1. Sin. It's not God's will. Wow, that was easy. Eve was made for Adam as a child factory and/or his masturbation machine. Anyone who would choose this alternative way of life, is jus
What do YOU think? Not about the cause (s) but the implications of people treating it with such passion and anger?
I think that person (for whatever reason) is uncomfortable with themselves, (I'm not calling all homophobes closet homosexuals),maybe some are just confussed. Pushing some to be tolerant can make them want to pull away more. I think elliminating ignorance about it would go FAR!
ok that would be the cause- the implications of passion and anger??? could = hate crime could = suicide ,could = a bitter person.
I think more people are looking for a cure for gay than for AIDS. Not that one has anything to do with the other.
My feeling is that those that like to win an office at the white house certainly have inserted an issue to the point of conditioning those that are so insecure that they wake one day after years of foxsnooseSh*t, hate radio and insulting newprint stories 24/7, and say OH MY! GAYS! What are we to do?
Then you get people that begin to postulate what makes people gay. You have to see this. Well, it's the soy bean. Who would have known?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=...
So now you have the creation of a wedge issue that is false but spun as if truth,and all of those goody two shoes get in on it and discover that it's the damn soy bean. Too funny., And they think they are offering a solution to an invented problem that they created in the first place. It's a circle of hate,fear,and ideology that has mushroomed all for the big votes. They made it up,they used it to their advantage and now you have a bunch of people conditioned to be homophobics.They play a crazy god card
My goodness! I thought I was reading a pretty good satire, then I noticed that the author was dead serious. I needed to stop laughing, but I couldn't.
I know, I know, these people are the Republican party base and it isn't funny because they have many one-trick ponies in congress, and an idjit in the White House.
Just when you've thought you've heard all the out of the zone hype one could possibly hear in a life time, along comes the ReligiousWrong.They not only slam all of mankind, but to go after the lowely soy bean TOO?Someone's god's are probably having a field day with this one I laughed too.Imagine,it was the evil soybean all along.Well according to some anyway.What can I say, except,I wonder if the RW also pulled from their portfolios any stock in the big culprit and instigator of gender bending soybean trade? Try bringing a soybean to be held accountable for all they've been taught to fear and loath so well.An EFN soy bean? That's what they came with as a solution to their made up issues. What could possibly pop out next of thier little bean head minds is up for grabs at this point I guess. AND,Maybe it's really flatulance that have influenced global warming as well? Hey ya never know with this group of Intelligent Designers. Far be it from me to mess with the minds of sheep.:-)
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It's amazing how many people, by simply focusing on its cause, would imply it's something to be cured, a disease. What idiots!
Looking for a solution for something that's not a problem- I like that!
I guess some people need to figure out why they are so uncomfortable (include any negative feelings with feeling uncomfortable), but for those who truly are uncomfortable seem to be so closed to any facts that may present themselves. They close their minds to all possibilities, I think because they feel they may feel even more uncomfortable. I really like those who are not religious normally in their thinking,when this issue comes up, they use God....shame!
If your own sexuality does not bother you, don't be bothering anyone elses.
Julian Bond, chairman of the NAACP said, "If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay." I thought his oldman use of the term "gay" as a noun was funny, but he hit it on the head, not just about gay marriage but about the privacy of the issue.
that really is the issue. The best way to "save" marriage is to get the government out of it completely.
I wonder why so many of us feel that it's natural to ask the government for a permission slip to marry.
there is only one way to protect marriage:
"Here's how to 'defend' Marriage"
http://www.populistamerica.com/here_s_how_to_de...
So by your thinking, populist, is marriage one of the rights reserved to the States to certify or to the people?
Doesn't it become a government issue in terms of taxation and the Census questions?
If marriage is as the fundies and gay-bashers assert, a "SACRED INSTITUTION," then the doctrine of separation of church and state says the government has no place in the marriage business. The government should license civil unions between adults who desire such, gay or straight. Period. The Churchie people can pontificate on which union is or isn't blessed.
I like it.
You guys take it too far. Let it be a matter of NO CONCERN to ANY GOVERNMENT WHATEVER whether you and your social group/family consider yourself to be married or not.
That's called NO government, and I hold my government to the responsibility for protecting rights, not issuing them. As long as the weak are protected from the strong, the minority are protected from the majority, I will be satisfied.
Without federal government protection, none would be able to marry foreign nationals and provide immigration as a result.
Ideallogically that doesnt work though does it, since we live withinthe framework of government at local, state and federal level. All levels of government are there to presumably implement the wishes of the governed.
The Bush Administration and Howard Government arrogantly forget that the LAWS are to PROTECT the electorate, especially the vulnerable!
thats it civil unions marriage is the joining of a man and a women. if you are gay or whatever you will have to call your civil union something else cause marriage is taken. huh um something like fagiage.
And that would make you... itiotage? fringe garbage?
Hey Pop... while you're ranting, go take some time to look up the phrase "seperate but equal" and get back to us when you've learned something!
As long as tax breaks and immigration rights were on that basis (civil unions), I could easily get rid of marriage altogether as a govt. job. Marriage would then revert back to a religious sacrament instead of a law.
TMS -- Actually "marriage" was an arrangement sealed between families, with religion not getting into it until recently (historically speaking), from what I've read.
Religion has actually hindered advances in the rights of people to marry: first it was marriage based on love, then it was interracial and interfaith marriages...
In no way, shape, or form are churches forced to marry people they don't wish to marry! Even today, some Baptist churches refuse to marry intarracial couples, which is their right under the Free Exercise Clause.
However, churches no NOT have the right to dictate civil, secular law expanding the rights of same-sex couples the right to marry.
hard to say it more clearly.
as we once used to say, right on, brother!
Oh the government goes lots of places that it doesn't belong and will continue to do so as long as those places are a venue to collect tax.
Edi,
Thanks for your explanation to me of the term Neo-Con. I'm not a neo. I'm much closer to Ronald Reagan than any of the Reps in the Oval Office.
Your comment about 10% is probably an overstatement. The offical gay/lesbo agenda groups say 10% male and 5% female which works out to 7.5% overall.
And since this number is from an agenda driven group, it is most certainly overstated.
One of the best figures I ever found was an estimate by a publisher of gay/lesbo literature. His estimate was 2% female and 3% male which averages 2.5% of the overall population. He based this on his sales experinec and sales reports from gay/lesbo bookstores wordwide.
The exact percentage has no affect on the validity of your argument but I think it is important for the informed ones in this forum, and you are one of those, to quote the most accurate figures available.
Due to PC, accurate gay/lesbo figures are hard to find. Let me know if your research finds a reliable, non-agenda driven source.
Invest: Thanks to a little thing called the "closet" -- which, thanks to intolerant GOPers like yourself, and the rabid religious reicht, where many gay and lesbian folk have to hade -- you'll never ever get a true figure as to how many GLBT people there are in the US.
Only when we all wake up with neon pink stripes on our bodies in various brightness according to our place on the Kinsey Scale, will we ever get an accurate account.
Just like left-handedness and religion, one's orientation and gender isn't apparant until a visible signal is noticed, yet we quit as a society discriminating against harmless factors such as those.
Furthermore, I can start a Church of marlene, have only myself as the head and only parishoner, yet I'd still have the Free Exercise clause as a guarantee. Civil rights aren't determined by numbers, but by the Constitution!
Furthermore, places which ban bias based on sexual orientation protects YOU as well, sweetie!
Finally... let me remind you that bigots like Falwell, Dobson, Kennedy, ad nauseum have an agenda as well, which is to demonize GLBT folk as a "threat" to society, just as their ilk did back in the teens when women wanted the right to vote, and during the 50's and 60's during the black civil rights era, calling the end of Jim Crow the end of civilization.
Well David, to me it's real simple...Do I want you to stand in the way of whatever happiness I can find??? No.
Then why should I stop you from whatever happiness comes your way???
Yes, pop, let's get CHURCHES and govt. out the business of issuing rights. The govt. must only be involved in protecting them.
Government has never created any right. It does have the ability to take rights away from one group and give them to another group.
Example: the handicapped parking spaces used to be for general use. If you are not handicapped, the government took away from you the right to use those spaces and gave the right to a selected group. In the process, some rights disappeared. (Handicap spaces are wider and you get fewer spaces in the same area).
Churches have no authority to create or reassign any rights.
That argument is tangential. You are suggesting that if we can only fit so many people in a given area, we need to reduce the number of gays and lesbians in the population? What exactly is the point? You are right to say that government has taken away rights. Consider, until the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, blacks were counted as 3/5 of a person for taxation and census purposes.
In that cases, rights which should have existed all along, were made available. Governments get their power from the people, and should not be allowed to remove rights from others without due process.
I love this comment! I agree it would have been better"as If you don't like gay marriage, don't marry a gay person"!.
My partner and I ARE about to join together in Civil Partnership (June 8th) in The British Consulate, as my adopeted country of Australia, stillpoint blank refuses to acknowledge our rights.
its funny heterosexuals can be offensive in their own little perverted ways like tv glorifies it as always, and now we have everyone else involved in an overwheming sex crazed society like hollywood makes us all into their dancing marionettes...does anyone see that we are all being controlled and our minds are not our own anymore? May sound strange but if you sit and think about how tv, radio, the computer, people talking about news, your mind has no portion left that you as your own person can come through. Its happening to all of us.
Sorry, can't buy that, my mind is still my mind :)
Agreed, I still control my own mind and make my own decisions. Then again, I am also educated and rarely watch television.
And I will make up my own mind....as soon as I can find it!!!
Poor Baby. No filters. Just full of whatever anyone pours in there.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a perverted sex addiction by people who enjoy playing with themselves and having orgasms, but since they can't reach their own genitals that they love, they go for the same sex genitals of others. It is obvious that the purpose of sex is procreation, and it's pleasurable so that creatures will do it, so it naturally follows that homosexual sex is not "normal". If you want to do it in private that's your business, but stop trying to convince the world that it's normal. It's not and it's disgusting. I admit that it's "sexy" to see two beautiful young women kissing, but the thought of lardass Rosie O going down on another woman is enough to gag me!
So what are you trying to say if Rosie O. was skinny and sexy then it would be ok, but since you consider her big and unattractive it's not???
Well intewe, you're missing out on a lot if your only sexual experience is for procreation. Even if you're a breeder. Homosexual behavior is found in every sexually differentiated species so far looked at, and our nearest relatives, the Bonabos, are sexually playful almost all the time with both sexes. Sex is for procreation in terms of the species, but in natural circumstances sex is usually about pleasure for the individual, and procreation just happens. Thank goodness we don't even need sex for procreation any more, so that just leaves pleasure. If you have a problem with pleasure, then no more ice cream for you.
Not to mention the fact that dolphins also have sex for pleasure... kinda blows the fundie's "theories" all to heck, doesn't it??
Lets not forget the Bonobos. ;)
yes i agree, homosexuality is a perverted sex addiction. people like you say enjoy playing with themselves, and since they cant suck their own penis or lick their own vagina, they go suck or lick someone elses. that is of course not the only reason but one of my conclusions ive managed to conjure up in conversations and research of homosexuality. and just cause bonobos and other species of animals practice homosexuality doesnt lead to the conclusion that its "normal" it is in fact not normal. a penis was made to go into a vagina, not into another man's rectum. and yes this means i also believe that having sex with a woman's anus is not normal. i could go on with many other reasons and examples. but i have not enough time.
So, I guess it would be a problem if I put my penis into my wife's rectum or mouth? Just not natural eh?
So long as you did not do it in that order, I would not have a problem with it.
andviceversa-you sound preoccupied with all the examples, maybe you'd have more time if you'd stop thinking about it and live your own life? huh? maybe?
'' people who enjoy playing with themselves and having orgasms, ''
uhhhhh...ain't that everybody?
*tries to recall anyone using the phrase 'orgasms suck' or 'I hate it when I come'*
Keep thinking of Rosie, then, and keep on gaggin.
Here is a thought inbredmigrant. You have used circular logic to stake your claim. You claim that homosexual sex is bad, because you do not like it. Because you do not like it, then homosexual sex must be bad. You claim it is not normal, but never define what "normal" is. It is not obvious to the vast majority of humans that sex is SOLELY for procreation. Hence, you cannot use that argument as part of your reasoning. Other people have indicated that you can accept lesbian sex, but only among the thin and beautiful. So on top of being a homophobe, you are also a disgusting pig?
Look, here is one more clue, you have dug yourself into a hole that is way too deep for you to escape. Here is a shovel, keep on digging.
A little off the subject but Chomsky clarifies what ails us in our fascistic, hegemonic dogma.
http://dulyconsider.blogspot.com/2007/01/priori...
Just a primer!